Pal supports the JRC and a new page

When I came back from Lismore this morning, I was greeted with a tag from Melanie Jewell on Jonathan Mitchell’s Autistic Writer page. I already knew about this thread, but what happened after I commented took the cake!

Here’s how it started. Pal put a visitor comment on Mitchell’s page;

Electroshock therapy is proven to treat disabling part of autism. I guarantee this therapy would transform, once violent retarded autistic person to near normal functional autistic person.

He linked an article from the inconsistent Slate.com, which was lacking in scientific back up and relied totally on unproven anecdotal evidence. This therapy is dangerous – indeed as I reflected in reply to Pal’s comment and link;

Totally banned in Australia – and rightly so. Get off your high horse.

I posted that a little over a week ago and Pal came back with this;

It proven to treat severe depression, schizophrenia, intellectual disability and challenging behaviour of autism. Electric shock therapy would reset the brain, in order for the brain to remove the challenging behaviour.

Reset the brain? You can’t reset the brain – that’s impossible! Well in theory brain surgery could do it, but practice in another matter! And Melanie barged in with this accurate reflection, and from a scientist;

You LIAR! It has been proven to do no such thing! Phil’s right – it’s been banned in Australia. Because it killed people or harmed them for life, as it did to legendary rock singer the late Stevie Wright.

I would have invoked Stevie as well. Good call, Mel! The infamous Deep Sleep therapy at Chelmsford Hospital was responsible for all that.

But it was only this morning that I saw this when Melanie tagged me in her responding comment;

Don’t want to hear your stupid disability rights propaganda. Electroshock therapy is proven to remove unwanted behaviour because it’s the only way to fix unwanted behaviors and they resist other ways to remove it. (suicidal behavior, deep depression, self harm, being violent to others, schizophrenia and drug abusers)

I’ll paste what Melanie said first;

You are a threat to society. Phil Gluyas you’re the expert. Get him arrested for this!

My reply was simple;

Unfortunately, Melanie, this isn’t a matter for the police. I wish it was – it would make things simpler. What he needs is to be restrained and admitted to the psychiatric ward at the Dandenong Hospital.

I then linked this blog entry and this, Pal, is for you.

Your rhetoric supports the Judge Rotenburg Center in the US. It’s totally unacceptable. ECT is NOT proven to work by science. Melanie knows it – she’s a scientist. That article (as I reflected above) is anecdotal and nothing more than speculation. ECT is dangerous. It carries intense risk. Jolting the brain in any way, shape or form is inherently risky. It does not cure Autism and never has. Autistic behaviours have other methods available to curb – and I mean the dangerous ones (self injury and intent to injure others as the obvious examples). The first port of call is to understand why they happen, and just labelling them Autistic isn’t enough information. There’s a sensory overload there and this needs to be found and dealt with. The cases quoted in the Slate article would have been from cases where an overload was dealt with as a sheer fluke by ECT. Flukes aren’t science. Electric shock is bad for the body – I know. I was jolted once. Did it change me? No it didn’t. Was I already Autistic? Yes I was – even though I didn’t know it at the time.

The JRC is facing closure attempts. I know of one court case, but I can’t locate it as the US court system is not as easy to search as the Australian.

But I do know that ECT is banned in Australia as I have said before. It deserves no support. This isn’t about disability rights. This is about human rights. ECT goes against the rights of a human being to be themselves – disability or no disability. Violent behaviours are treated by going to the source of the behaviour and solving that. And that is usually from an external source – a bad influence from within the individual’s family or social circle.

Also, Pal has opened another page. This one was originally called “Hating autism” but it was later changed to “Defeat autism now”. On the list of links are;

1. The Mitchell Newsweek article, with a claim that he is telling the truth – to which Sam Redfern rejoined “No he isn’t”.
2. John Best’s New Hampshire governor page, asking readers to follow it – to which Sam commented not to and added rightly that Best was a maniac.
3. Mitchell’s interview with Autism Live from early 2015 (I already took that apart on Mitchell’s Gadfly)
4. A photo that was linked on a page title “Get ‘Exterminate all Autistics’ BANNED”
5. A share of Melanie’s screenshot of Pal’s comment just above about disability rights. This one is the one that Melanie saw first and she commented;

You at this again, Dang? Stop lying about autism.

It was appropriate because Pal had said of the screenshot and Melanie’s retort (“This is a disgrace! This man is dangerous. Seriously.”);

Wow. Neurodivesity claims that wound shouldn’t be healed and to be left infected. What a shame that disability rights claim that disability shouldn’t be cured and trivialize it.

Sam Redfern gave this the appropriate rejoinder;

Healed? Infected? Last I looked autism wasn’t a disease.

It’s not! Sam’s spot on. And then Christine McKewen came in with this;

You are the one trivialising the issue, Dang Pal.

That caused Pal to show his level of stupid;

Me trivializing autism? Lol. Why should I buy some disabled right bullshit? They just saying that they disabled by society because they claim that society abuse them when they did nothing to them

What rot! And Melanie was spot on with this reply;

Society DOES abuse them! Why do you think there’s a Disability Discrimination Act? To try to prevent it!!

And I can talk through experience on that one! Australia Post and the Defence Department!

Christine also added to the first link the following;

JM is talking his own hardships that he brought on himself. Nothing to do with autism.

Pal struck back with this blatant lie;

No. Neurodivesity deny the negative side of autism and sweep it under the rug. He struggled because of his autism. Next.

Melanie tagged me in her reply to that;

No he struggled because society wouldn’t let him be him. And according to Phil Gluyas and a few others his mother neglected him as well. No on denies the negative side of autism. You are denying the positive side.

I can’t add to that except to remind Pal of the details of Mitchell’s mother’s neglect – insisting on trying to cure his autism instead of living with it like every other parent at the time did after being falsely accused of being bad parents and therefore the autism was their fault.

On the second link, Christine added to Sam’s comment by calling Best a liar. Pal called best “hilarious”, to which Melanie said;

No he’s not. He’s dangerous because he’s serious.

And to prove it I added the link to my victory over Best, pointing out that it proved that he was not just a liar but a full blown defamer.

On the fourth link, Christine made the obvious point;

You didn’t read the comments did you? This is fake.

Pal struck back with two comments;

This therapy is legit. This guy from India is a registered therapist that treats autism and brings hope for those who are afflicted with autism. Neurodivesity is wrong again.

Show me the evident that this treatment is fake?

Melanie provided the perfect rebuttal;

It’s faith based. There is no faith based “medicine” that has ever cured anything let alone autism. Registered therapist be damned.

To back that up, Pal should have looked at the profile of Ashwani Kumar. There are no medical qualifications there, and there is mention of spirituality. The university Kumar claims to have studied at seems to be a place for exclusive study of that subject. Pal’s fallen for a con artist.

Finally, there was another link – to Mitchell’s “Neurodiversity: Just say No” article, and Melanie pointed out;

Einstein was autistic. So was Mozart and a number of other people. The essay you are talking about is junk.

Indeed.

The way this is going at the moment, I may be opening a new blog. We’ll see.

Pal proves he’s gone crazy

Poor Melanie Jewell.

She had no idea after she said on her page that Dang Pal needed help that she would get jumped on by a page called “Neuroinsanity gone crazy”. On August 4 I put an entry about this on the Oliver Cantby blog because like Melanie I was fooled into thinking this was Canby pulling a nasty stunt going in to bat for Pal. It started thus;

How dare you trivializing dang for wanting a cure his autism. Neuroinsanity don’t agree for all those who want to cure their horrible disability, what a shame.

Melanie didn’t twig straight away either way and shot back with some authority;

It’s not a disability – unless it’s allowed to be. That is a fact.

Along with the fact that there was no trivialising by Melanie. She stated a fact – that Pal needed help and I will add to that by saying that he does need a cure – for his mental retardation and not his Autism.

Sam Redfern then showed up with this cracking comment;

The name of your page is offensive and ignorant, NGC.

It certainly is ignorant. As far as the offence goes, that only works for those who know that it’s an insult for neurodiversity. Pal meanwhile shot back at Melanie with this;

Wow. You claim autism not a disability? No wonder neurodivesity is a insane group. Scientists agree that autism is a disability. What about you? You’re not even a scientist, you’re a fraud.

He then addressed Sam’s comment;

My page is to expose the truth of neuroinsanity lies, Autism is probably caused by mercury or genetic defect or something.

Melanie is a scientist for a start and she said that it IS a disability for those who allow it to be. If he’s calling neurodiversity an insane group he’s calling the entire human race insane! As far as his comment to Sam is concerned – it doesn’t expose the truth at all. The second part of that comment is out of line. Melanie came back with venom;

Scientists do not identify autism as a disability. That’s a society label. And I am a scientist. Are you? Do you understand autism? Do you understand genetics? Do you understand science?

He doesn’t understand any of them because he doesn’t want to. He doesn’t want to know about Autism, genetics or certainly science. Sam meanwhile responded to the comment aimed at him thus;

Autism is not caused by mercury.
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-final-nail-in-the-mercury-autism-hypothesis


Orac is a terrific source and this is a great article. Pal though hit the stupid meter with this reply to Melanie;

The medical professionals identify autism as a disability because it impair their ability to socialize, communicate and behave like a non disabled person.

This was a pretty good attempt to impersonate Canby, and he changed it to medical professionals – blowing it again because regular doctors can’t diagnose Autism. That falls to psychologists and psychiatrists. Autistics can overcome the issues with socialising and communications with a full education and tolerance within society. And what defines a non disabled person? What about the blind, the deaf or the wheelchair ridden? Mel fell for the impersonation, but she was great with this challenge;

Use your own account, Dang Pal. One chance only.

Pal didn’t see this straight away and continued by invoking Mitchell;

Jonathan Mitchel would prove to you that autism is a disability
http://www.jonathans-stories.com/non-fiction/neurodiv.html


That’s another article (alongside the one un-diagnosing Einstein et al) that needs a responding article, and a strong one.

Carl Davis then got involved with this comment;

You’re embarrassing yourself, Neuro. You are insane if you think you are telling the truth. Get with it. Autism can be great if you treat it with respect, and you can do things “normal” people can’t do.

Melanie meanwhile noted the link and gave it the appropriate verbal one arm salute;

Jonathan Mitchell?? He hasn’t got a clue!

It was then that Pal pulled his impersonation stunt;

This is not dang pal. I’m Oliver Canby.

How dare you mock dang pal for stating his own opinion for curing his disability.


Melanie fell for it, but either way she instantly saw the danger and posted;

Oh bye bye Mr Canby. You are crazy and need to be arrested and charged.

And then she deleted the original comment and banned him from the page before posting the following comment in it’s place;

And Neuroinsanity gone crazy AKA Oliver Canby is banned from this page. Screenshots taken.

And sent to me for this entry.

Over on the page concerned there was some more nonsense. For a start Pal not only added the Mitchell link again, he also linked John Best’s Hating Autism blog! Melanie went in and linked to Canby’s Facebook profile and to the last entry on his Autism is bad blog to prove that he was (and is) crazy. Pal shot back;

You, Phil and the neuronitwits were harsh Dang and Jonathan Mitchell for wanting to cure their autism.

Sam let him have it for that one;

No they aren’t. Those two are hateful towards the autistic community wanting it wiped out because that is what will happen if a cure is found. So are you, Oliver. You want people dead for it. That’s the epitome of crazy. Thank you for the link, Melanie. Very enlightening!

Sam also pointed to the Autism Wikia article on Mitchell in reply to the link to Mitchell’s article, and he added this piece of brilliance to the visitor comments;

This page is an offence to the true nature of the human brain and it’s naturally diverse nature.

The very definition of neurodiversity.

I watched the page very closely but suddenly it disappeared after I added it to the Canby article on the Autism Wikia. Melanie noted the deletion, but then Christine McKewen dropped in and advised that she caused the deletion of the page by noting that it was in fact Pal that had created the page. Melanie queried that and so did Sam. So did I. Sam though wasn’t sure either way speculating that Canby could have copied and pasted Pal’s rhetoric. But then Melanie saw a comment by Pal on Jonathan Mitchell’s writer page (the same page I previously mentioned as a source of more Pal material) and realised that Christine was right. Carl Davis added that Pal could have found Oliver’s name in a Google search for my name and just used it “to deflect attention” – adding credence to Christine’s observation over her comment. And Christine drove home the point noting a comment on Mitchell’s blog that almost carbon copied one of the comments on the page AND added that the times of Pal’s comments weren’t consistent with Canby’s local time.

That was when I deleted the entry on the Canby blog and moved it here where it belongs. I added in reply to Christine that there was another point of proof. Canby would have persisted under fire. Pal gave up just like that. I also removed the reference on the Canby Autism Wikia article.

This incident will increase my efforts to find this guy, get his real name (if it isn’t Dang Pal) and ensure that as Melanie noted he will get the real help he so desperately needs.

Dang Pal or whatever your name is (Part 5)

I meant to do a follow up entry but I didn’t get around to it and meanwhile Pal came back and put more nonsense on the Newsweek article a couple of weeks ago. I was onto it and after two weeks he hasn’t been back.

Melanie Jewell I’m not even agressive and I don’t personally hate myself or loathe. But hey, you autistic rights think that suffering from cancer or fatal disease is a part of someone. Autistic and disabled rights think that mental illness, diseases or disability is a part of someone or defines them, are absolutely demented. Autistic rights claim that people are disabled or diseased because of society fault, when medical science can handle the problem, by curing the disabling part of the disability. You and autistic rights made my brain cells gone, with your misinformation because you guys are dumb as hell.

You’re lying! You do hate yourself because you wouldn’t be on here whining like a little brat if you weren’t! Autism is NOT a disease! Never has been and never will be, so do NOT make that comparison! It is the height of hate for Autism. We aren’t “disabled” because of society. It’s a label they attach to us to try and restrict our ability to contribute because they are afraid of what we can do. THAT is the problem. Not Autism itself. Get society on the right track, and we get everything we are entitled to. You are against that. You haven’t lost a single brain cell to Autism. You have however lost brain cells through your stupid and hate ridden conduct that WILL be penalised. You were told we have hate laws in Victoria. I know you live here, and you are breaking those hate laws. You are the one spouting misinformation based in fear – the very core of hate speech. Either stop and fight with us, or go stand alongside the bigots of this country where you belong! Your choice!

He’s aggressive. He shows it plain as day in everything he has posted.

I understand both disability rights and medical model. Only thing that I’m concerned about the disabled rights, they going to impose their acceptance for those who suffer from disability or in extreme cases, they claim that suffering from fatal disease is a part of someone. If a cure found, it shouldn’t be imposed, neither imposing acceptance for those with diseases and disabilities.

It WILL be imposed! Society fears Autism and they want it gone completely! You aren’t helping with you hate ridden claptrap! SHUT UP!

I’ll add to that by saying that Autism NEEDS to be adjusted to and accepted, or madness follows.

Kristi Âû Campbell What about the profound autistic, who have no mental capacity and have a mental age as a baby?

Same thing! Once again you fail to understand Autism.

I’ll clarify that and say that those who are low functioning and those who are not have the same condition. Besides, every living human being has a mental capacity!

Phil Gluyas I already adjusted my disability through treatment. I don’t hate myself personally. Without autism treatment, they would suffer from the disabling symptoms from autism and that would do more harm than good. Autism doesn’t define anyone, nether does disease or cancer. Go stick to assaulting people and sue people’s with your childish lawsuit.

Phil Gluyas People can manage to adjust with their disability fine, through treatment and teaching them repeatedly to follow instructions over and over again. Then again, you guys deny the disability part of the disability and claim it’s okay to suffer from it. They want to live normal lives, without their disability interfering with their lives. Once again, you deny it and pretend that none of that happened. You guys are easly offenend with the word normal. Normal means, person behave appropriately, without embarrassing themselves. Autistic people need to learn the ground rules of socializing and communication in order for them to interact with others. Without it, they would be seen as a lost person.


1. I have not assaulted anyone for a start. Let’s make that clear and you are listening to proven defamers with that one. I wouldn’t have WON any lawsuit if they were childish. They were legit and succesful as well, so be very careful. You do hate yourself, and no you have not adjusted because you are rejecting the condition as a part of you instead of accepting it. Do NOT compare the condition to any disease. That is hate speech.

2. Suffering is in the eyes of the beholder. I don’t suffer, because I make it work for me. You suffer because you won’t adjust and it controls you instead. Own it! Your definition of normal is wrong, because there are many who are not even Autistic who embarrass themselves all the time! Pauline Hanson, Donald Trump, anyone in line for what’s called the Darwin award, Sonia Kruger, Pete Evans, anti vaccine proponents – the list is ENDLESS! Society needs to learn to tolerate difference and help instead of hinder. You support discrimination and that makes you a threat to yourself because you won’t react when you are penalised for being Autistic. You need to fight that stuff. But you won’t. That is the true definition of a lost person and that has nothing to do with being Autistic. Get your functioning levels right and in the right environment, you will be fine – without a cure.


Indeed, if any of my three lawsuits were childish I would have lost. And I didn’t.

Melanie Jewell You like people to leave their infection untreated? I don’t think so.

Autism is NOT AN INFECTION, you hate ridden bastard!

Enough said!

Melanie Jewell Show me the scientific proof that all historians scientist are autistic? Come back when you have proof and don’t make up assumptions.

Scientists are socially awkward, that doesn’t mean that they have social communication impairment, like autism. Normal people can be socially awkward (nerds, scientists or dorks), they still manage to understand the ground rules of social and communication skills and being socially inept isn’t disabling like autism.


I’m getting sick of this! Socially awkward is a key Autistic trait – it’s a social communication impairement. The two go together like salt and pepper! Nerds ARE Autistic! Many scientists are Autistic! Dorks? Well that carries a very vague definition that’s too general to address accurately. James Marsh provide a link that IDed Albert Einstein as Autistic (Mitchell is a liar and his article is rubbish). The fact that you don’t understand Autism is proof that you don’t accept the evidence that lies in the combination of the DSM-5 (and the DSM-IV) and the reputations of those who have been identified as likely Autistic.

An additional point – not all scientists were Autistic.

Melanie Jewell “Let’s blame society for our disabling problems” Why do the disabled rights need to blame society because they have a disability?
That proves to me that you and the stupid disabled rights are misinformed and demented. Thief disabled because of their impaired ability to do certain a things, compared to someone who not disabled.


You are misinformed and by your own admission you are mentally retarded (separate to Autism and not a part of it) so you have no business putting others down when you have clear issues. You are trying to label me disabled by labelling everyone of the Spectrum disabled. Listen, idiot – I can ride a bicycle, I can walk and run, I can use all of my limbs in the way they were intended. I know how to use my brain, because I have learned how – and you haven’t. I am Autistic, and I am NOT disabled. Yo9u aren’t disabled by Autism. Mental retardation is disabling you and you refuse to do anything about it because that MR has happened because you won’t adjust to your Autism! That’s YOUR fault, and I suspect those around you have some questions to answer as well!

That commentary from me is derived from the previous entry which quoted Pal’s blog, and I fancy this may be why he didn’t respond. He knew I had him.

Melanie Jewell Autsim is a developmental disability that affect the brain functioning. If Autism was a genetic defect, then it would be compatible to Down syndrome and fragile x syndrome.

It’s NOT a genetic defect! It’s a genetic DIFFERENCE!

And even if it was a defect as such, it’s proof that there would be eugenic elimination because that’s already possible with Downs Syndrome.

When I can get the time to do it, I’ll follow up with what I intended to do per the previous entry.

Dang Pal or whatever your name is (Part 4)

After all that in the previous three entries I decided that a web search was needed. It brought up a cached version of a blog which he didn’t leave online for that long it seems (long enough for a cache version to be retained), where he said the following;

I’m Dang Pal, I was born in Melbourne, Australia in 1996 and I was diagnosed with classic autism and intellectual disability at the age of 6.

Prior of my diagnosis, I been suffering from non verbal autism, suffered from major speech delay and it caused me to have speech impediment later in life and I can’t remember much being severely autistic at the time. My first year of mainstream school was bad because I use to go to random classroom, urinate on the floor and my clothes, my toilet trying was delayed till the age of 7, rarely go to class and they expelled me from mainstream school because had a bad report. I also went to special school as a kid, specialize for autistic people (southern autistic school), from age 6 thru 10 years old because it was mode suitable than mainstream school setting.

I struggle to live normal life, because I suffer from classic autism, along with mental retardation and I wish there a cure so I don’t have to deal with the hardships of my disability. Many people claim that “autism is a gift and give you superpowers”. I don’t see autism a gift because autism is a burden and it doesn’t define who I am. I use to deny having a disability because I was too embarrassed to discuss about my autism and see it as taboo, otherwise people would ridicule or sometimes verbally abuse me as a result. I also had a hard time in my childhood because my family would see me as autistic & brain damaged and discouraged me for accepting my disability, people at school would pity me because they see me as autistic and see me as mentally disabled. I been to speech pathology and Aba therapy sessions for the past few years at school and hope that would made progress to make me indistinguishable from a neurotypical person and live a normal life with no problems. I also hope that autism speaks would help find clues what cause my disability in the first place and find a cure for autism. I also found out that autism altered my brain and caused my brain damage because how people see me, as if something is wrong with me and it’s a fact that I can’t refute. I’m not writing this blog because I pity on myself or loathe, I’m doing this blog because what I observed living with autism in my whole life. After all the shit I been through for the past years, why the [beep!] would I want to accept being disabled when I can find a cure to be normal, human being?

Many autistic rights activist group claim that autism is a disability because of society fault and they view autism as a social model of a disability. Also they try to find solutions to accommodate autusic people, instead of treating or curing them. That’s not the case. Autism is problem of society because autism is a disabling condition, that impairs the ability of socialize and communicate to others efficiently. Also, autistic people claims that curing autism would lead to to eugenics, like the holocaust, which is offending. They don’t understand curing autism would restore the brain and body back to normal because they dont understand that curing autism would relieve them from the disabling conditions and they keep talking nonsense on social media. I don’t really care if they don’t want to cure their disability, as long if they don’t shove it down to people throats. Everyone have the rights to criticize or aggre with me, as long if they don’t attack me for wanting a cure for my disability. Just because you don’t want a cure, doesn’t mean you want to abandon treatment and cures for autism. 

As a 20 year old, I recently graduated high school, working in a menial job delivering donations bags and obtain a divers license without a problem. Only problems that I’m concerned about, is my autism. There numerous problems that I face today. I have motor impairment which imlairs my ability to walk properly, hold a pencil, play sport and make normal movement without looking like a brain damaged. I also make above average mistakes, hence why I take too long to complete one task. I have a bad communication impairment, it makes it hard for me to use facial expressions, interact with others, I can’t listen to instructions without repeating it again, saying things or shouting at someone without realizing Thai I was rude, unable to answer simple questions without making things complicated, I misinterpret information by saying skipping topic every minute that’s irrelevant to the topic, I talk about one particular topic all day and people are not interested, I make people make other people uncomfortable cuz I’m not that socially friendly, and have a hard time to concentrate and get things done. I also have social impairment because I feel that I’m disconnected in the real world and makes it hard for me to interact with others. I also have bad memory skills, that make it hard for me to remember things, process instructions automatically or what the person said and Its not in a quirky way, it’s in a disabling way. I also have a hard time making friends and can’t get a girlfriend because of my social communication impairment, what I mentioned above. You guys should consider my illiteracy because I can’t read or write beyond the 4th grade level and I make a lot grammars mistakes.


Let’s break this down bit by bit.

1. What the heck is this with the late diagnosis at 6? Surely his parents had some idea of what was going on? Diagnostics were good enough in 2002 – it’s not like he was born before the DSM-IV! In addition, didn’t he go to kindergarten? If he wasn’t toilet trained it would have been noticed then for goodness sake! Pal’s parents have got some questions to answer I think!

2. That aforementioned error was worsened by being sent to a mainstream school, which had to do damage. Without an explanation for problems (no diagnosis) of course he was expelled. The special school should have been the first port of call so we had a late reaction. That would have included the speech impediment, which by the way is not a part of Autism. It’s a side effect of the lack of appropriate treatment for the speech delay.

3. Pal claims to have mental retardation. It should be pointed out that this diagnosis being alongside Autism is due also to the late diagnosis and lack of treatment when it should have been applied. So he has to treat that as separate. Whether or not it can be repaired is another matter, and I would point out that mental retardation IS brain damage, as distinct from Autism. So Pal is mixing the two up.

4. Autism doesn’t give you superpowers with a snap of the fingers. That’s an old wife’s tale. You can however gain a very high level of skills over and above the neurotypical community. But it must be earned and learned. I look back on my own schooling and remember how good I was a maths. But I didn’t get straight A’s because I was lazy and over confident. That’s on me. Result, I’m not a savant like some Autistics are. Most of us on the Spectrum aren’t – because we didn’t get the chance to develop the skills for whatever the reason. That’s something that I’m very keen on rectifying and I fancy I’m not the only one.

5. Autism DOES define who you are, because it is a part of you – like it or not. It’s like a saying I have written in my A5 lecture pad that I use to organise my life short term; Life isn’t a matter of being dealt a good hand. It’s a matter of playing a bad hand well. Pal isn’t playing his hand well at all. I’m playing mine okay over time – I’m certainly playing it better than I did before 1997, but then I wasn’t diagnosed so I didn’t know how to play what I had. Now I do.

6. Pal said; “I also found out that autism altered my brain and caused my brain damage because how people see me, as if something is wrong with me and it’s a fact that I can’t refute.” He can refute it because it’s not brain damage (see the mix up I mentioned above).

7. He also noted Autism Speaks as looking for a cure. Well that’s changing (I hope – if that story Mitchell mentioned that I commented on some time back on Mitchell’s Gadfly has anything to it) as they realise that it’s not what parents and carers want right now. They want support first and foremost.

8. Socialisation in particular is a two way street. It works through adjustment and everyone has to do it otherwise people are left behind. This is called being marginalised and it’s a human rights abuse. That’s not limited to Autism or even physical disabilities. It goes for other cultural differences as well and leads to radicalisation. That has to stop and it’s up to society to make that change – not us. I suspect Pal is Asian, and he and his parents should understand that aspect of it thanks to the hate being directed towards Asians in Australian history. It works the same way.

9. Let’s make one thing clear. The fact that Pal graduated high school is great. He should be proud of that. It’s a victory that I never had. I have made no secret of the fact that I left high school without finishing it. The environment wasn’t for me, and in 1981 there wasn’t another option especially as I was still 16 years away from my original diagnosis of Asperger’s. He also noted getting his driver’s license, which goes to show how easy it is to get a license nowadays – sorry, but the system is too easy to get through now compared to when my father was licensed through a police run driving training course. They should bring that back. Sorry – tangent. The graduation allowed him to gain a place for further study which I’ll get to in a minute.

10. Pal can still learn from his mistakes. He needs to work on his concentration in particular. There is nothing wrong with a checking statement – I do that myself sometimes. The only reason we shout is out of frustration that the other person doesn’t appear to be taking the time to give proper instructions – or if we believe it’s appropriate (for instance if we think there’s a lot of noise about and we have to shout to be heard over it, which can be a problem if our hearing is over sensitive as a result of our sensory sensitivity issues. Skipping topics only happens when the core topic isn’t of any interest and that should be respected. There’s nothing wrong with talking all day about one topic – you just have to make sure it’s the right audience. It’s why I’m okay socially at the football as an example. No Autistic is socially friendly, but we don’t need to be. We have a right to the maximum functioning level, and forced socialisation gets in the way of that. Bad memory skills I would assume is the result of his mental retardation – or he’s judging it on not remembering things he’s not interested in. Finally – illiteracy can be overcome.

11. Last point – getting a girlfriend has to be earned. It’s not automatic (that was Oliver Canby’s line). All you need is someone who will understand and accept you as you are and be willing to help and stand by your side. Granted, such a person is hard to find, but they do exist. I know. I’ve been married to one for 24 years.

Is that all? Nope! There’s still more to come and that will be in 24 hours.

Dang Pal or whatever your name is (Part 3)

To continue from the previous entry, Stephen Hawking was brought up in another thread, and here’s what happened;

Nate Watkins Because Stephen hawing is not a mentally retarded autistic, he had a disease that paralyzed his body. People on the profound autism is burden to society because they are virtually an infant for life, they would never contribute to society and a cure it’s an only way for them to function like a normal human being.

The only Autistics that are a burden on society are idiots like you who refuse to adjust and whine and carry on like brats. Stop complaining, take what you have and make something out of it. There is no such thing as a normal human being. We are all different.

He didn’t have a comeback for that either.

Of course by this time (at the time) I was getting very annoyed with this little fool and here’s another example;

Nate Watkins Those who is diagnosed with profound autism along with mental retardation, are mentally incompetent to make choices and people who are suffering from autism needs to be cured, in order for them function properly. Stop claiming that everyone on the autism spectrum shouldn’t be cured because you guys are narrow minded.

Practice what you preach Mr Narrow Minded. Stop claiming Autism should be cured and make more out of your life. You can do it, and don’t make any excuses not to.

And I stand by that.

Here’s another example of his foolishness, which started with a comment from Melanie;

Jackie Rose If you can’t tolerate those with autism then you have serious human rights issues. They are human and they are not animals.

Oi, stop taking bullshit about “people can’t tolerate autism is violating human rights” You’re just saying that because you misinterpret what you’re saying and you’re a mentally disabled [honk!]. Only those who needs a cure for autism are, children with autism and adults with profound autism because their too incompetent to make choices.

You are making a bad choice right now abusing people who understand Autism. You don’t because you refuse to adjust to it. You are denying yourself your right to be you.

Dang Pal Understand me clearly. A cure will be used by society to force it on every autistic including those who are functioning well without exception. It’s murder and you are looking for the murder of autistics under the justification of a cure. You are dangerous and you need help.

I doubt a cure is going to happen anytime soon. If a cure is ready and available, I could careless.

Care, because it will be forced – and it will not help you. It will destroy you.

And again while I was in Hobart Pal shot back and got owned again by Melanie;

You claim that a cure you destroy me. Wow, you and the stupid autistic rights groups are lunatics are out of touch with reality.

It will. You are not dealing with your situation correctly and are believing lies.

I can’t add to that. Pal is out of touch in a big way.

Pal also got involved on the Kasia Ash thread and defended the woman who was doing something wrong and the rest of us knew it;

Screaming on the bus, biting people and acting feral is not normal because it embarrassing. So you retards want society to put up with disabled people abnormal behavior? No wonder you autistic people are weird because you guys are not competent enough of socializing, communicating and behaving normally. She she meant “normal”, she means that he is capable of following social and communication with no trouble.

Kasia Ash Keep up the good work for raising your son to be normal and just ignore these people because they don’t know that their taking about.


Yes – put up with it. Because we are human beings who have needs that deserve to be fulfilled. If an Autistic is behaving like that, they need to be taken out of that environment due to the sensory overload. There is no such thing as normal – it’s dryer setting and nothing more. Stop defining it and using it as an excuse not to improve yourself.

In that case, treatment would help stop feral behavor from happening and they would learn how to behave appropriately in public.

Understand why the “feral” behaviour and change the environment to prevent it. That can be done without a cure. Stop. You don’t understand what you are dealing with.

We can’t change the environment to stop feral behavior, we can treat the feral behavior by sending him to the therapist or something

No that’s not how you do it. You get other people to adjust their behaviour. Autistics will resist therapy of that nature and it will only make the problem worse. Again you are showing that you don’t understand.

[beep!] that, I would rather send him to therapy so he can behave appropriately in public and don’t embarrass people around him. You think is okay for people to behave abnormal I’m public? It’s like saying that it’s okay for schizophrenic person to act bizzard in public, without getting treatment.

There is no such thing as abnormal. You are a hateful person. This is the reason why no employer will employ you.

At least I got an menial job, better than no job. Once again, you lunatics are refute that autistic people have abnormal social, communication, motor skills and behavior.

I refute that, because THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS NORMAL!! Get that through your thick skull right now!! Menial job – you can get a real one if you want it. Start by adjusting to your condition instead of whining and carrying on like a baby. And lose the hate like James pointed out.

Yep, I was POed big time when I made that comment and I think I had every right to be.

When Melanie on another thread mentioned being provoked and causing anger I said the following and Pal couldn’t help himself;

Oh boy I can attest to that in SPADES!! Three successful defamation lawsuits upon such provocation, plus two intervention orders in the same terms.

If you hate on people that wants a cure for autism, who don’t you stick you’re noses where it don’t belong.

Melanie Jewell If you guys want to impose acceptance, you guys need to keep your mouth shut.


Dang Pal It belongs because it’s a threat to my life and to every other Autistic on the planet. You are preaching hate and it needs to stop.

Dang Pal You are behaving like a bully. It’s not going to work.

I’ll add to that by saying that you HAVE to accept and adjust, or you’ll go mad. Yes I’m repeating myself but this time it’s needed.

Pal got involved in another thread for the first time also while I was in Hobart and Melanie was onto him again;

Being autistic it’s not the same of being black, homosexuality or blue eyed. You guys deny autism it’s a disability because you blame society. Autism it’s a disability that impede there ability to socialize, communicate and behave. Like other brain disability, it also damage the way the brain function.

Oh yes it is the same as those genetic factors! Adjust!

And fight the haters!

And here’s another fresh one from while I was in Hobart with a great reply from Melanie;

Jadea Faith Autism it’s not a disability cause by society. Autism is a disability that impedes their ability to socialize, communicate, behave like a normal person. Like other developmental disabilities, autism can damage or retard the normal brain grown and autism robs normal innocent children. If a cure is avalable one day, then it would put the end to this horrible disability and make the person normal and functional.

You and the autism rights deny that autism is a disability because you guys blame society and claim that autism is normal by society, when it’s not. You guys claim that treatment is abusive and autism is a part of someone, is obviously misinformed and out of their minds.


Jadea Faith Ignore Dang Pal. He’s going mad. He doesn’t have a clue what he’s talking about because he hates autism and refuses to adjust to it. He’s misinformed and that needs to be corrected for his sake and for the sake of those around him as well. He wants all autistics eugenically eliminated because that’s what a cure will do.

Poor Jadia. She’s achieved much in getting treatment that Pal claimed didn’t help him. It was proof that he was wrong, but he is so blinded by hate he didn’t see it.

Here’s another new one from the time I was in Hobart and another reply from Melanie;

Autistic rights are denying that autism is a disability because they blame society for thier disability. Sheesh, these fools don’t know what thier talking about. If they were in the same shoe as your son, they would see how hard is it to live with autism and deal with the suffering.

Suffering caused by society, not autism! And in your case caused by YOU and not autism!

“Your son” was a reference to the original poster, Kevin Sullivan, who claimed that his own Autistic son was low functioning out of the frustration of not being able to communicate. Melanie rebuked him for complaining and told him to help his son instead. I would add to that saying that Kevin can’t know that’s the reason his son is angry because of said lack of communication.

And another fresh one from while I was in Hobart with a reply from Melanie;

Nate Watkins Show me proof that autistic people invented a light bulb, tv and video recorder. You fools can’t even show proof and assume autistic people invented everything. Temple don’t even have proof and keep taking bullshit with no real proof. Stop talking bullshit, without giving any proof or evidence

Thomas Edison, John Logie Baird and Charles Ginsburg all had autistic traits. All inventors have them. To be a good inventor you have to have a limited social life. You know it.

I know I saw Edison’s name alongside Einstein’s at some point. I would argue that Baird and Ginsburg benefitted from the work of others – there was image transmission before television and that would have been related, and video was simply the next step from movie reels.

There’s still more to come.

Dang Pal or whatever your name is (Part 2)

Aside from the comments in the first entry here, there was also nonsense elsewhere on the article comments. This one started after Mel had a crack at Yuval Levental over his demand for scientific evidence of Autism’s genetic base;

Yuval Levental You need to look at the scientific evidence against it being genetic, and you will find that there is no evidence against it. Ergo, it’s genetic.

Autism it’s not genetic problem like Down syndrome. Autism is a developmental disability that impact the brain development.

Autism is not a genetic mutation as Downs Syndrome is. It is genetic in the same way skin colour, eye colour and hair colour is genetic.

Yuval Levental Neurodivesity claim that historical figures, like Einstein and Bill Gates are autistic without any scientific proof. You and Jonathan Mitchell are right about it.

Melanie Jewell I said autism is a developmental disability that impacts the brain growth and cause certain parts of the brain to malfunction


And you are wrong. On both counts. Yuval has been identified as a racist so don’t start agreeing with him. Einstein is held to be autistic. Mozart was also autistic.

That’s bullshit. Why are you guys assuming that he has autism, without any scientific proof?

I agree on yuval and Jonathan because they are telling and irrefutable truth


Refute this, Dang Pal. Your two sources are not reliable.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn3676-einstein-and-newton-showed-signs-of-autism/


That pick up by James shut Pal up on that thread, and I’m going to be using that on the Autism Wikia believe me! Not to mention the other evidence in support of Einstein being Autistic, and Mitchell in particular being wrong in his article on the subject.

The next load of rubbish came after a thread that was dominated by the equally angry but from our side Moromillas Radec – he was provoked of course by some pretty nasty pieces of work including Lenny Schafer;

Nate Watkins So you think being disabled should be celebrated? You’re just saying that because you’re nothing, but a stupidest person ever.

Moromillas Radec Calm down, you’re just being crazy and need to be put in a mental hospital.


Autism is only a disability if you allow it to be – or others allow it to be or both.

Autistic rights refuting the fact that autism is a disability and claim it’s a disability because of society fault. Autism is a disability that impairs the ability to socialize, communicate and behave like a normal person.

No you are wrong. You are hating on Autism and don’t understand it. Phil is Autistic.

Dang Pal You are lying and you are going to be in a lot of trouble if you keep this up.

And I mean it as well, especially as again while I was in Hobart, Pal came back this time with the following;

Melanie Jewell I’m not hating on autism. You guys deny autism is a disability because you guys go crazy and claim that it society fault. Autism is a disability that impede the ability to socialize, communicate and behave, compare to an normal person without autism. Social model don’t work for autism because it not like someone who handicapped or crippled who needs a ramp. Autism it’s a medical problem because it’s impede their ability to to certain thing. Jon Mitchell it’s right. You deny that autism it’s a disability because the social model deny any impairment that an autistic person has.

Stephy Tihanyi Cure for autism ain’t going to cause eugenics. a cure would enable to fix the broken brain that was cause by autism.

Exactly. Autistic rights claim autism is a disability because they see it as a social model and deny that autism it’s a medical problem. As an autistic person, my brain isn’t working normally because autism made my brain faulty, therefore a cure would help fix my brain back to normal. Also autistic and disabled people have impairment which impedes them from living a normal life. All I have to say that, you and Jonathan are speaking the truth about autism. Don’t listen to these stupid autistic rights or disability rights because they don’t know what thier talking about.


I suspect Levental put a comment in there and then deleted it after Pal replied (with the paragraph starting with “exactly”. But once again, Melanie was on the ball with this reply;

Your brain is working differently. That doesn’t make it disabled unless you let it like Phil said! If a cure was found, there would be eugenics because society fears autism and it would be forced on everyone! Yuval and Jonathan are not speaking the truth about autism. They are lying. They are bigots. Yuval is a proven racist. Don’t listen to them. Listen to people like Phil. There is nothing wrong with your brain, unless you don’t adjust to the difference. That’s all it is – a difference. To say it’s not a difference is hate speech against the autistic spectrum.

Again I’m not going to add to that there, or here this time as I would be repeating myself.

The next one comes from a thread where Nate Watkins mentioned the loss of personality;

Nate Watkins A cure won’t get rid of someone personality, it would enable them to function properly and live a normal life.

That is a lie.

You think being a lame gimp, cancer, disabled, mentally retarded, disease, mental illness and depression is a personality too?

No. Autism does not compare to any of those factors, except maybe depression but that can be dealt with without a cure for autism.

Nate Watkins What about those who suffers from profound autism? Profound autism is not a personality, it prevents them from do anything and it’s a burden to society

If they didn’t do anything they’d be dead. You are a hateful person.

No single human being functions perfectly. Stop your rhetoric and start accepting and changing with your condition. DO IT!! Or you’ll go completely mad.

And while I was in Hobart back he came again, and Melanie got him a ripper in reply;

I never said they would do nothing. People with profound autism are virtually an infant for life and requires 24/7 care. They not even smart because their life was stolen by autism and burdens them from contributing to society. A cure it’s the only way to make them live a normal life. If it wasn’t for therapy treating the disabling symptoms, I would of been a useless.

Yes you did! Stop lying! They aren’t an infant for life! You don’t understand what autism is and you aren’t even trying! And they ARE smart! I know I saw a link that proved it and I’ll have to go and find it. Someone who learned to type and showed that he was very clever despite appearing to be low functioning. Who wants to be made to live a normal life? what is a normal life? Guess what. There’s no such thing and you’ve been told that already multiple times! You are you, and as long as you don’t accept that you’ll never ever be happy. You also don’t know what a personality is by the way.

He can contribute to society. He just doesn’t want to unless he gets a cure.

I gave it to him with this one in the next thread;

So you guys attack on people that don’t agree on you’re opinion?

What are you doing then?

He didn’t have an answer for that one!

I can’t quote this next one because Pal removed the comment but I can note the responses to his stupidity;

You are lying. Autism is no more a cause of anger than in any neurotypical human being. Melanie is right. The anger has a trigger. Find the trigger and you’ll have no anger.

Dang Pal You will withdraw your accusation that I am mentally disabled. Just for the record I am not autistic. Phil is and you should listen to him.

My bad

And that was all?? He should have apologised properly!! And as if to prove it on another thread;

Melanie Jewell Be quiet, you fool.

Take your own advice.

There was more rudeness in another thread after I made the following comment;

William Lane If I remember before he lost his account Artie made the point that fear would rule. I know of one stupid Autistic who even proposed an Amendment to the US Constitution to ensure that anyone who opposed a cure would suffer the death penalty for it. The fear exists, and it goes well beyond fear of Downs Syndrome – thanks in part to idiots like Chris Harper-Mercer and worst of all Adam Lanza. Society wants Autism gone and they will make a cure compulsory to ensure it happens.

You claim that autism cure would cause eugenics, you fool. HAHAHAHA!

It’s true and don’t you forget it!

He didn’t have a comeback for that!

There’s still more to come.

Dang Pal or whatever your name is (Part 1)

I have another Autistic enemy here, but I am unable to confirm if this name he has on Facebook is real or not, given that he claims to have been born in Australia – but at 20 he isn’t on the Electoral roll when as an Australian citizen (automatic if born here) he should be by law. So for now I can’t add him and add an appropriate article. What I can do at least is write about him here, and I have to do this in several parts.

Pal came to my attention when showed he up on the Newsweek article about Jonathan Mitchell, defending him by responding to my initial comment upon my return to Facebook in late February this year (My comments are in blue, Pal’s are in red and Mel Jewell’s are in green);

I’ve only just recently returned to Facebook after more than a year off. I just want to say that what I was quoted as saying about Mitchell in this article was not only reproduced correctly (including the typo – argh), it is also absolutely true. Mitchell deserves no one’s sympathy. He is a prisoner of the 1960’s special education system and he flat out refuses to break free of it and live in the 21st century. This is because he has been taught to hate himself (AKA hate his Autism) by his mother, who when accused of being responsible for his condition when he was diagnosed – turned around and took the blame instead of doing what every other parent was doing at the time and bite lumps out of the person who made the accusation. The instant she took the blame for Mitchell being Autistic, he didn’t have a chance to develop as he otherwise could have. His opinions mean nothing to the Autistic community today. He even admitted one time that he had nothing to offer the community in the way of help – or words to that effect.

Oi, he not speaking for the autistic community, he speaking for himself. You and the stupid autistic rights activist stop questioning autistic people or parents with autistic child who wants a cure. If you guys don’t want a cure, that fine. If all of you don’t want him to be cured, you’se guys just stick your noses where it don’t being.

Shut up. Talk like Mitchell’s (and yours) will get us all killed. There is no cure. What you do is you adjust to your condition and demand the space to do it. We have that right. No one has the right to keep us at the bottom of the food chain where we are right now because of idiots like Mitchell, you and everyone else demanding a cure. It’s hate speech and it stops now.

So. Why are you guys making a big deal when someone wish to cure autism? If autistic people don’t want to be cured, I respect their decision. People with profound autism or suffering from autism wants a cure because it’s the only way to make them live a normal life. If someone want to cure their autism, it’s none of your concern and they no need to worry about it.

It IS our concern because society will FORCE that cure (if it is found) on ALL of us!! Getting it yet? You’ve got no idea what you are talking about. There is no such thing as a “normal life”. Again – shut up. You are engaging in hate speech.

You think profound autism is normal by society? It’s not normal because they are virtually an infant for life, they have severe mental retardation and unable to communicate and socialize be any means. Curing someone with profound autism would enable them to be productive member of society and live a normal life.

You don’t have to cure Autism to get that done you know. And there is no such thing as normal as I have already said. Everyone is different in their own way. Mitchell can be productive now. He just doesn’t want to because he lets the discriminators win. He doesn’t need a cure for Autism. He needs a cure for his attitude. And so do you. Admit that you don’t understand and shut up.

You retards claim that discriminators is the reason why autistic people are the most unemployed disability group? The reason why autistic people are most likely to be unemployed because their unable to socialize, communicate or behave like a typical person.

You are WRONG! Autistic people have trouble getting a job because employers refuse to provide an appropriate environment in which they can learn those skills at THEIR pace. There is no such thing as a typical person. If we were all the same it would be a boring world. Remember that and stop lying about autism.

Bullshit. Autistic people are unable to get or keep their jobs with no support because of their impaired ability to socialize, communicate or behave to other people. I been told by my speech therapist that people require to be at least competent of their social and communication skills, in order for them to get or keep their jobs.

Your speech therapist is wrong and you are permitting discrimination by proxy by not fighting employers who use those factors as compulsory in employment.

Jobs should be judged on the skill to do the job, not socialisation. You are letting the discriminators win. Stop complaining and get behind Autism Rights. We deserve a fair go.

Pal didn’t reply to that. Pal also started a thread in the following terms with all responses with the previous colours plus magenta for James Marsh;

As an 20 autistic, I want a cure to happen in my lifetime because nothing good about my autism. Tbh, I don’t mind if other autistic people don’t want a cure because I respect their decision. For those who hate people that want a cure, just need to keep their mouth shut and need to stop talking shit.

You are talking shit. Change your attitude. You are not getting a cure because a cure would kill you and the rest of us as well through eugenic elimination. Fact. I don’t respect your decision because it is a threat to me and to every other Autistic in the world. There is good in your Autism. You just have to find it, and starts with stopping the hate for it. You don’t have to love it. You just have to understand it – and at the moment I don’t think you do and that’s a serious threat to you because you aren’t adjusting. If you refuse to adjust to your Autism, you will go mad. So stop, please.

You think is good to celebrate being disabled and being a retarded lame gimp is a gift too? I don’t see anything good about my autism and I will never change that. I’ve been given treatment to try to make me as function as possible, I spent 4 years in autism school to help get rid of my severe autism, mental retardation and the disabling symptoms of autism and I been bullied as a kid for being autistic. If a cure avalable, I would be so happy to be normal and I would forget about being disabled.

You can’t get rid of autism. You have to live with it like Phil said. There is good in autism and you won’t go looking for it. You’ve been taught to hate – just like Jonathan Mitchell was. You need to stop. Phil is right – you’ll go mad if you don’t and that’s a dangerous situation.

A point. You are studying Telecommunications Engineering. You wouldn’t be able to do that if you weren’t autistic. It’s an autistic speciality. A cure would destroy your skills there.


You idiots don’t know what’s is like suffering form autism, along with mental retardation. I been ridiculed, bullied, verbally abused, doubted and been hated by others for being autistic. People giving me dirty looks, people scorning at me and saying that I’m a subhuman, people constantly putting me down and insulting my disability. Now, I have no friends or connections, low self esteem, self doubt and unable to defend myself from abusers. If you guys were in my shoes, you guys would be desperate for a cure to end the misery I put up with each day. It doesn’t mean, I would give up looking for a cure or treatment to be indistinguishable from normal people.

So you think mental retardation, depression, being a lame gimp in a wheelchair and cancer are gifts too? You fools claim that autism give you idiot savants it superpowers when it don’t because it’s bullshit. If that the case, the retarded profound autistic people would of been working in the Silicon Valley.


Autistics ARE working in Silicon Valley. You are being put down because society is scared of autistics. You are contributing to that fear. You are causing hyour own problems because as Phil said you refuse to adjust to your condition. You are trying to reject it, and you shouldn’t be doing that. Your rejection is causing the very behaviour that is scaring people. You need to change.

A question – is Daniella Di Toro a lame gimp? Cancer is a disease so do not make that comparison to autism. You need help. Phil said you’d go mad if you don’t adjust and it looks like it’s already starting.


Why should I adjust my condition, when I can find a way to fix my brain or possibly be cured to be privileged as a abled bodied person. I learned that if normal people put me down or abuse me. I normally ignore it, pretend that nothing happened like a real masculine man and unable to defend myself cuz I’m too disabled to do it. I normally take advise to abled bodied people because people doubt me that I would make my own choices, cuz I’m disabled. Jonathan Mitchel is right because autism is a problem to society and a cure and treatment is the only solution.

This is hate speech, and Victoria has hate laws that punish this sort of talk.

There no rules or law that I can talk about curing my autism, ya fool. At least Jonathan Mitchel is being honest about a cure for autism and you guys want to start a heated argument over a cure for autism.

I like to thank all the bullies, abusers and haters to give me mistreatment and encouraged me to find a cure for autism and to be an hateful, bitter person. I the one who deserved all the abuse and maltreatment for being autistic because I was too weak and disabled to defend myself.

My autism stopped me from getting a gf, social life, make it hard for me to make friends cuz I don’t have one, made my brain malfunction and reduced my quality of life. Therefore, a cure or treatment “to make me normal again” would be the only way for me to function normally.

You are hating on Autism. You are lying about it. The issues you are having isn’t caused by Autism. It’s caused by YOU being a lying, whining, crying bag of bones. That’s not Autism. That’s YOU! Autism is a way of being. It is okay when you treat it right. You haven’t treated it right – and again that is YOUR fault, not Autism’s.

I am speaking the truth. I am Autistic. You are a threat to the Autistic community and you will be silenced because you are lying to yourself and about the condition.

And again – THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS NORMAL!!


I thought that was the end of that, but while I was in Hobart just recently Pal came back with this;

How am I hating myself because I’m autistic, dumb mother[beep!]ers. You claims that my suffering from autism is part of human being, God you [honk!]s are [beep!]ed in the head. If I didnt receive treatment for my disability, I would of remain an infantile state for the rest of my life and its its a huge embarrassment for having a mind as a baby in a adult body.

You [honk!]s are easly offended of the word normal because abled bodied are healthy and disabled and diseased ridden people are abnormal.

I don’t give a shit if you [beep!]wits silence me because I don’t speak for the autistic community, you retards.

How am I condoning hate speech, when I have my own opinion?


Melanie saw it and this was a great reply;

You are publicly calling for a cure for autism, which will be forced on everyone if found. That is the hate. Phil was right. You are going mad. It’s all over your comment – the anger. Anger at what? You think it’s anger towards autism. The reality is you hate yourself because you know deep down you needed help and you think that’s a bad thing. It’s not. Everyone needs help at some point in their lives. And you need more. I hope Phil sees this and he knows what to do. One can’t hate autism – that’s dangerous. Phil did a great article on his website about it. The hate you have (no matter what the target) is holding you down. You need to let it go. It’s bad for you. If you don’t, I dread to think what will happen to those around you when you snap as you inevitably will.

I’m not going to add to that there because Mel said it all. But I will add to it here and say that if it wasn’t for our gun laws, I’d call Pal the next Martin Bryant in the making. I do know what needs to be done and I’ll get to that later.

There’s more to come.