I officially apologize for committing hate speech against Jews. I officially retired from the far right scene and I been in the far right scene since the United Patriots Front days around 2015/16. I don’t have any animosity toward the Jews after my last stint in jail.

I’m not a neo-nazi or associate myself with the alt-right. I also have a mentor who job is to disassociate myself with the alt-right. I sacrifice my friends with the alt-right people over the years and I ended up being an asshole.

Dang Pal on the Dumb Pal blog in the comments of the entry “This is why hate speech must be fought” on June 4, 2023

I held off on this because it got through without the moderation queue and I had to unapprove it, and I wanted to wait for anything else for a substantive period of time.

I don’t accept the apology because much like Canby on his blog, this is fake. It’s another complete 180 without good reason. It also smacks of the same stunt Pal pulled on Facebook as previously mentioned on this blog.

Today though, this comment enforced publication;

Phil gluyas also hates me with passion. I tried apologising to him earlier last year and was about to tell him I’m doing well and he banned me from his comment section. It’s not worth taking to him tbh.

Let’s squash the beef between us and be friends again.

Dang Pal on the Autism is Bad blog in the comments of the entry “I’ve Had Enough” on January 9, 2024

This must have been in the moderation queue for at least a few days as I have been monitoring the comments area but I stopped for a week due to my football project commitments and Canby’s death threats.

This goes to the comment above that I quoted and I’ll add this. I want to see evidence. I want to see content that shows change. There hasn’t been any. Not at the time back in June last year – and not now. If Pal wants me to accept his apology – he has to show me he has changed and not with words but with action. Online content of his own and real life back up.

The end.

I was checking through comments on the Oliver Cantby blog and I noticed a comment in the trash. I thought I’d forgotten to empty it so I went to look – and found a comment from Pal that had been trashed automatically because of the settings that banned him from there. It was a reply to the previous entry here, and it was ignorant and foolish.

I got a few things I need to address from gluyas last entry about me:

Gluyas deleting my comments for speaking the inconvenient truth about autism, good riddance. The majority of the world population don’t care about neurodiversity crap except the radical leftist. Nobody gives a shit about autistic people because they’re inferior from neurotypicals. Neurotypicals makes up 99 percent of the world and dominate every aspect of society and let’s keep it that way.

Dang Pal in the comments of the Oliver Cantby entry “AIB: Closer but not quite there” on February 24, 2023

It wasn’t the truth. It was a lie. The majority of the world population still has a lot to learn about natural human variation. Autistics in many ways are equals, but can’t express it due to varying levels of sensory overload that can be dealt with. Pal – with this comment – is approving of the very same segregation he himself has been a victim of for being African (if I remember correctly).

Oliver Canby don’t want to speak to me anymore, good. I’m shocked that Canby done a 180. I don’t want to deal with a mentally unstable kike who riding on gluyas dick and expect me to workship gluyas like he god or something. It’s a pity that the Austrian painter didn’t finish his mob.

Dang Pal in the comments of the Oliver Cantby entry “AIB: Closer but not quite there” on February 24, 2023

Canby hasn’t done a 180. He was lying – it was a ruse. Pal’s broken English made the last sentence intelligible.

Canby want Mitchell to be incarcerated for his alleged racism, homophobia, misogyny, ableism is contrary to freedom of speech.

Dang Pal in the comments of the Oliver Cantby entry “AIB: Closer but not quite there” on February 24, 2023

He doesn’t. He still supports him per my previous comment. Hate speech is not free speech.

As I said before, I’m a self proclaimed far right and there nothing wrong with that. Everyone has different political beliefs and opinions.

Dang Pal in the comments of the Oliver Cantby entry “AIB: Closer but not quite there” on February 24, 2023

That’s fine – but when one takes those beliefs and opinions out into the world you are going to be criticised for it and in some cases mocked and abused. Back it up with facts, or shut up. It’s that simple.

The world is set up for the majority of normal people and accommodating autistic freaks is a waste of time. Autistic people are destined to be losers. They can’t work or hold down regular jobs that require social interaction, and the only jobs that autistic people can work is any jobs that pays poverty wage. You can’t blame society for being disabled, you know, it’s the autism that caused them to live in poverty and remain unemployable. I’m speaking on my experience of being employed with autism. I get fired making mistakes and poor social from autism. I’m doomed to be unemployable. Even a violent criminal is more competent at holding down a job than an autistic person. Do you think that any employment would waste money and resources to cater an autistic person or any other marginalized group (lgbt, retards, etc)? Employers would only hire them out of pity, not based on competency.

Dang Pal in the comments of the Oliver Cantby entry “AIB: Closer but not quite there” on February 24, 2023

The world set up is wrong and needs to change. No human being is a waste of time – well except for criminals who commit heinous crimes such as mass murder and paedophilia who belong in prison for life with no parole. Autistics are winners – they exist. I could name names here but I won’t because I don’t want to give Pal any targets given his past record. Autistics can do very good jobs in specialised areas. But we aren’t allowed because employers want everyone to be multi skilled and flexible. That leads to poor quality work across the board.

The blame for being disabled lies with no one. The blame for not adjusting lies on society – and on Autistics (and other reverse ableists and genuine losers) who refuse to adjust too. Employers should employ on what a person can do, and outside of retail and hospitality social skills shouldn’t even come into it. Pal is simply too scared to work on his own abilities.

Autistic people have hard time making friends, communicating like a neurotypical person and abide my their social norms. Once again, it’s the autism that cause social isolation and inceldom. No offense, autistic adults are more likely to become incels and blame society for their problem.

Dang Pal in the comments of the Oliver Cantby entry “AIB: Closer but not quite there” on February 24, 2023

I know Autistics who do pretty well making friends – yours truly included. It’s a matter of finding the right circle of people – and that takes work (again – something that Pal is scared of). There is no such thing as an incel really. Celibacy is voluntary. Always has been and always will be. People who enter the priesthood for example are doing so voluntarily. There is no such thing as normal either.

Autistic behavior is NOT normal. Stimming and repetitive behaviors should be discouraged from childhood and the parents job is to punish them for behaving like that. The goal of Aba therapy is to punish autistic behavior and reward neruotypical ones. Autistic are cringy and an embarrassment, and they should remain invisible from society. As I said, they a few autistic people who can function in society while the majority can’t live like a full human.

Dang Pal in the comments of the Oliver Cantby entry “AIB: Closer but not quite there” on February 24, 2023

The goal of ABA therapy is to bully and an Autistic will always resist being bullied. The ONLY time ABA is useful is to stop genuinely harmful behaviours like self harm. Autistic behaviour IS normal (for the sake of argument). In the DSM-IV the Spectrum was identified in five of six behaviours. But every single human being on the planet has at least one of those same behaviours (but no more than four of them). It’s a funny thing. Pal thinks Autistics should be invisible – and yet he is making himself visible here. Think about that one.

Neurodiversity promotes reverse discrimination and bullies people who oppose their view. I doubt neurotypical would take neurodiverse people seriously. The least we can do is ignore them.

Dang Pal in the comments of the Oliver Cantby entry “AIB: Closer but not quite there” on February 24, 2023

No one can ignore true neurodiversity. It is there. It exists in everyone. No single brain is the same in any human being. It is those who deny the existence of neurodiversity that promotes discrimination in all its forms (including reverse). Neurodiversity is not an entity.

As for my mental state, I’m doing fine. I attend medical appointments, psychologist and psychiatrist. And I’m been depicted as a dangerous person just because I committed a crime when I was 18. The victim should and get over it. So do the neurodiverse and gluyas who over the years think that I’m a dangerous killer or something.

Dang Pal in the comments of the Oliver Cantby entry “AIB: Closer but not quite there” on February 24, 2023

Actually he’s not. Anyone who goes far right and behaves like this on top of it has major mental health issues. I very much doubt he is getting help because if he was he would be moving away from this nonsense. Shoving away the criminal act like that goes to the lack of remorse that adds to the issue, and also means the strong likelihood of a repeat offence. Previous entries here demonstrate the truth of Pal’s criminality – both actual and potential.

I’m done with dealing with unstable autistic people, expect autistic people who are close to neurotypical.

Dang Pal in the comments of the Oliver Cantby entry “AIB: Closer but not quite there” on February 24, 2023

Well that means he’s done dealing with himself – because judging by the comment I have quoted – he is the unstable Autistic. He is engaging in the very hate speech I am battling as has been demonstrated here – and it will be prohibited for one simple reason. It harms a section of the community and keeps it where it does NOT belong. NO section of the community outside of those I mentioned above should be kept where it doesn’t belong.

If you want to reply, Pal, do it here. Actually stand up where the content is – or are you confirming you are afraid? Let’s have the truth or some proof of your claims.

The following comment was put on the Oliver Cantby blog today;

Wtf I done wrong to Canby? He didn’t need to apologize for what he done he need to face the consequences for his actions. Canby is virtue signaling to avoid repercussions. I’m not a fan of neurodiversity and never will and I’m a far right person. I see autism as a disability that reduce the person capacity to live a normal life and I show full emphasis of the medical model of autism. There few autistic out there that can live normal lives which is the expectation of this rule.

Dang Pal on the Oliver Cantby blog entry “AIB: Closer but not quite there” on February 23, 2023 at 1:48pm

This was in reference to Canby’s note that Pal abused him somehow on social media somewhere. First off, Canby did need to apologise – genuine or not. As far as consequences go that is up in the air. Maybe he was virtue signaling and he failed if so.

But the key here is Pal’s comments firstly about neurodiversity. It exists. It’s there and we are all a part of it. It is a part of being human – like two arms, two legs and everything else we are. Skin colour is a part of it. So is gender. And so is brain difference AKA neurodiversity. Given that Pal is of African descent this attitude is reverse racist.

The same is true of being a far right person. The far right is part of the problem on the African continent outside of the democracies that exist there. They want to fight in order to control and want the freedom to do so. It’s a contradiction.

Autism is only a disability if one allows it to be, and there is no such thing as normal in anything including life. The medical model of Autism is pushing us as diseased and that is ableist and hate speech. Everyone who isn’t majorly sensory overloaded can live a good life. It’s just a question of being allowed to by the community at large – and adjusting to it oneself.

Pal proved with this comment (which has been trashed from it’s original location) that he still needs help and it proves he never got it at the time he claimed he did. It also proves my previous assumption as to his ISP was wrong.

Last night I got a message request from Dang Pal on Facebook. I was right to be suspicious back in 2019 – he didn’t get any help because now he’s throwing rubbish at me. Look at this nonsense;

Hi,

Andrew Wakefield had done some research in 1998 that the mercury and thimerosal in vaccines cause autism. Mark Geier also witnessed the autism rate increased that been caused my autism. The pharmaceutical companies are behind the autism epidemic and altering our genes. The Covid Jew jab increased the autism rate from 1-54 to 1-46. And the Covid vaccines has exacerbated the autism epidemic. There were no autism hundred of years ago until the Jewish pharmaceutical criminals has shoot vaccines into woman and destroys the genetic makeup and render their babies useless.

I was a normal child from birth and devolved to autism around 18 months. It mangled my brain and caused me not able to read, write and use the toilet.

80% of those on the autism spectrum are unable to read, write, use the toilet, learn how to communicate and turn them into a vegetable.

Adolf Hitler was the solution to stop the Jews from controlling every aspect of the western world. Unfortunately we defeated the wrong enemy.
Daily reminder that the holocaust never happened but it should have.

Thank you,
Dang.

https://youtu.be/2PlZF4u97KM
https://www.bitchute.com/playlist/zJBMIAbXn2Qg/
https://www.bitchute.com/playlist/hmv3AI5oVvJm/

Dang Pal in private message on Facebook on November 15, 2022

We all know that Wakefield’s work was found to be falsified and he was struck off the British Medical Register as a result. Geier was similarly treated in the United States across multiple jurisdictions. There is no gene alteration because Autism existed well before any vaccine. The rate of Autism was always 1 in 46, and the COVID vaccine has changed nothing. 100 years ago there were Autistics in asylums and in working in science labs. Mozart was Autistic going even further back than that.

Pal was Autistic from birth, and that 80 percent figure is total rubbish. It is a lot less than that. Hitler was an idiot and the Holocaust did happen. Surviving Nazis stated as such and were proud of it as well.

The videos – the first one was a Best conspiracy rant, the second was a Hitler doco that has to be falsified and ditto the third about Europa. Europa was the name of a girl in a Thomas Dolby song.

Pal then added three images that I was not going to look at and then;

Respond you bitch ass

Dang Pal in private message on Facebook on November 15, 2022

I’m responding here.

Tf is wrong you? You dumb autistic mad

Dang Pal in private message on Facebook on November 15, 2022

This doesn’t make any sense

I was proud for abusing autistic people and Ashlin in 2014, and I have no regrets and remorse. Only felt sorry when I got arrested and manipulated the court to let me off the hook.

Dang Pal in private message on Facebook on November 15, 2022

This reads like an admission that he used Autism as an excuse to escape justice. He’ll get his eventually.

After collecting these comments I blocked him from my political account.

The message request I received this past Friday proves without a doubt that Pal was lying when he messaged me previously per the previous entry. There is also a report that he’s been creating accounts and sending messages before deleting the accounts to avoid detection.

Here is his latest banter;

Now you know who I am, haha; a violent person with autism and intellectual disability (iq 52), and a history of violent crimes. All the violence that manifested when I was a kid was caused by decades of physical, psychological and emotional abuse. The treatment was minimal, I still distressed from the abusive treatment. I attempted to become violent like Chuol Gatwech, but I can’t. The attempt of curing autism from child abuse had failed. My step dad (saiko Chuol Gatwech) was proud of of beat people, physically, emotionally and sexually abuse children and my mum, rape woman and teaching me how to be violent like him. Since child protection intervened, my step dad has a court order to be away from the kids and my mum was also accused for child abuse, neglect her kids for decades and condone sexual violence at home (now she dead). Like a said, the truth would be unfolded and I tell you who I am.

I’m now doubting his Autism DX with that IQ number – but then again he could be lying again for all I know. This is now reading like an excuse machine.

I’m not exaggerating my life story, this shit is for real. This is why I have severe anger outbursts, and ended up in the hospital for homicide attempt and idiopathic brain swelling. Make no mistake, Chuol Gatwech wouldn’t hesitate to harm and abuse anyone with his presence. And that’s why I prone to violent outbursts and I’m stuck with it for the remainder of my life.

Actually he’s not. It’s another excuse. Being violent is a choice – always has been and always will be.

*homicide attempt to murder all of my own family.

And this has been acted upon appropriately. Hopefully this will be the end of it – but we’ll see.

While I was in Canberra I got a message request from Dang Pal on my personal account on Facebook. This is what he said in two separate messages. First;

Alright, you win. I’m announced today that I conceded with my hostile relationship with autism. I been admitted at Dandenong hospital for depression, suicidal thoughts and for my violent behaviour. I feel less distressed and depressed, and learned how to cope with life instead of being violent. I shouldn’t listened to you years ago, I done crime and it was on me, okay. This isn’t an empty apology to get away with trouble, this is a real apology. I learned to adjust with my autism like my dad, mum (who passed away) and sibling told me through the years, I never listened to him through the years.

Second;

On top of that, I learnt violence from my step dad (who raped my sister and commit domestic violence towards everyone in my family when my dad was absent) and used domestic violence and violence to cope with my miserable life.

I didn’t respond and I still haven’t because I wanted to put this on my website first and I couldn’t do that until I got home and updated my website as I have now done. Responding on Facebook was too risky at least at this point in time.

If I had time I would go down to Dandenong Hospital to verify this claim. I could call them, but a personal visit would be more likely to garner results. Dang Pal has to understand that he has hurt a lot of people and done damage to the reputation of the Autistic community – and that is something that can not be repaired with a simple message such as this.

Don’t get me wrong. It is a step in the right direction if it is genuine. No doubt. But such is the damage he has done there is going to be scepticism. Is it genuine or not? I honestly don’t know. I would like to find out, but the only way I could do that is to go to Dandenong Hospital and check this out – and even meet him maybe. At this point though the latter could be risky. He won’t get rid of those violent tendencies overnight. It’s going to take time. He’s in the right place to achieve that. Likewise you can’t just adjust to being Autistic just like that either. You have to be prepared. I was lucky that I was prepared without even realising it, making my transition in 1997 upon my diagnosis of Asperger’s easier. There were still issues of course, but the base was there. With Dang that base is not there, and it will take time to develop it.

Now I don’t know how well off Dandenong Hospital is in coping with someone with Autism in Dang’s position. That is something I could probably check on through a few phone calls elsewhere. The other issue is that being violent has become something of a routine for Dang, and that is something that will definitely take time to break. As the old saying goes, old habits die hard. That’s especially true for Autistics. It just depends on how determined one is to change, and how much help is needed to get there. Dang certainly can’t do it alone – that I have no doubt about.

So it’s a case of wait and see. I don’t trust you, Dang. A lot of people don’t trust you. Don’t take that the wrong way. We want this to be what you say it is. But as I said, you’ve hurt people and that hurt is going to take time to heal.

I finally got around to this. As an aside I have been able to get a little further with more information arising from the previous entry, and I hope to complete that sooner rather than later. Dumb Pal has been a semi regular on Mitchell’s Autistic Writer page on Facebook and here are his comments ranging from March to September.

All jobs require at least basic level of social and communication skills in order to be an efficient worker.

No that is not true.

Speaking of people skills, autistic adults don’t even have the right functioning social skills and communications skills in order to be an efficient worker. This explains why autistic people are the least employed out of all the other disabilities because they have social, communications and behavioural problems. Just because autistic are good workers, doesn’t mean there efficient workers.

That doesn’t mean we can’t learn those skills! And we CAN be efficient workers without those people skills! As long as we do the job – no issue! The trouble is the employers insist on applying people skills as essential, and that goes to what Ari Ne’eman has always said about social pleasantries as essential – and what I’ve long said about abusing the concept of unjustifiable hardship!

Exactly. If they don’t like anything this sponsored with autism speaks or #mssng project, they might as well not use it.

This was in reply to Mitchell’s observation that we should be boycotting Google for supporting Autism Speaks and the #mssng project. I can safely say that I boycotted Google in 2010 (for entirely different reasons), although I have found that I have to use Google search if I need to apply restrictions as it’s the only one that has that capacity. Ditto Google Maps. But I don’t have an account and never will. I don’t use Chrome and never will. I only look at Blogger because that’s where some blogs I need to watch are, and You Tube is the only video website that actually works. So it’s impossible to totally boycott.

I forgot to mention that boycott autism speaks also hates light it up blue.

That’s narrow thinking, because the idea is limited to America. In Australia we have Go Blue for Autism, which is similar but it has nothing to do with Autism Speaks. That’s why I support it, and it was a shame that I couldn’t dress in all blue on April 2 2016 when I was in Timboon for Phil’s Weekend as I intended to. That is not supporting Autism Speaks. That is supporting Autism itself.

I don’t hate or be enthusiastic about liub, but I don’t make a big deal about it.

That’s because he doesn’t care about being positive in any way about Autism. He has proved that will his BS that I spoke off in the last entry.

They also have social, communication and behaviour problems which makes it harder for them to have work skills and people skills. Many autistic activist on the internet claim that autistic people need accommodation in order for them to be a productive worker and they deny that they have problems themselves.

We’re not denying the root problem. Pal is denying that there are ways to improve matters, certainly on work skills. As far as he’s concerned, Autistics are hopeless and can’t be helped and we should accept that as fact. It’s not fact and we know that!!

Most autistic activist are liars and don’t see the reality of autism because they claim autism is a social model of a disability and wants society to change by banning autism research all together.

Here’s the reality – Autism isn’t going away. Your interpretation of Autism is the present social model, and that has to change because it promotes hate and social isolation beyond reasonable bounds. I’m not against research as a whole – just research in certain areas designed to find a cure. It’s a waste of time and more importantly a waste of money that is better spent in education, adjustment and the fight for our right to be who we are and so on. Society HAS to change.

Who said disability part of human experience? Steve himself is not autistic, so he believes the lies that autistic right activist says.

I say it’s part of it, because every human being is different. Disability is a legal construct designed to protect from discrimination, and to educate in human difference. Being blind or deaf is part of the human experience as an example. We don’t lie – you do, to yourself about the condition you have.

As an autistic person. My disability crippled me from living life to the fullest, it bought shame to my family and there nothing good about being disabled.

You are crippling yourself. That has nothing to do with Autism. You brought shame on your family when you ended up before the courts for your previous conduct as I indicated in the last entry on this blog. That’s also on you, not Autism. You need help, and you are going to get it – like it or not.

It’s funny how the neurodivesity proponents like to blame your mother for nothing and claim that your mother neglect you. I say that bullshit.

Autistic people might be good at some things (maths, science, counting toothpick or remember bit of details) and they are bad at forming relationship, playing sports, living independently, communicate efficiency or keep their jobs. It’s taboo for some autistic people to have sex or get in a relationship (marry, dating) and it shouldn’t be discussed.

You don’t know what he said about his mother and what it revealed! It’s quoted on the front page of the Mitchell’s Gadfly blog on this website! We can form relationships – many of us got married (including me). We can play sport – I can play table tennis and I used to play squash. As a teenager I was half decent at field hockey. We can live independently. We can communicate efficiently. If given the right chance we can keep our jobs. That’s the key to all of it – a fair go and a proper education across it all, on our side and society’s side. The taboo is from society and that should be fought – not accepted as though it’s the rule. It’s not the rule at all.

He hasn’t posted since, and I hope he is done posting on there.

Holy cow! I thought I was dealing with a simply misguided and deluded person here. But I had no idea of his history!!

Back track to late 2004. It seems that Pal was running several pages, including Exterminate all Autistics and Mums Against Autism. The admins of the page Mom’s fighting back for those bullying and abusing autistic people was fighting very hard and she located Dang. Someone named Samantha Barbara made the following statement in relation to action against Pal;

Yes the police officer handling the case is back this week, and she’s sent the documents to another police station in Dang’s area for him to be interviewed. It’s unfortunately a very slow process. Dang doesn’t live in our area so another police station has to pick him up.

That means Samantha isn’t in Greater Dandenong but she is in Melbourne. It was also mentioned that a member of Parliament (state presumably) also got involved to hurry the thing up. Now the question is this – what happened? Did it go to court? What was the result? Was he referred for intervention treatment (which is what I’m after now)? This discovery has raised a lot more questions about Pal and he is now a much more serious enemy than I thought he was.

I have messaged the admins for information on this one, and the entry I had planned previously has been further delayed.

To continue from the previous entry, there were two other new statuses from Pal on his DAN page. The first followed up on a remark in the comments over sheltered workshops, and I’ll add that and the follow up first;

You fools don’t know nothing. Sheltered workshop is the only job network that would accommodate mentally disabled people and those who are severely afflicted with autism. You retarded disabled rights claim “sheltered workshop abuse disabled people and exploit them” Well they make friends, they got a job and they have fun. Where they going to go if they have no job? They would be depressed and watching tv all day at their parents. This source would prove to you that sheltered workshop isn’t bad after all.

He linked a news story that I’ll go into in a minute. Christine jumped on the obvious;

You are a bully and you need to shut up and let autistics be who they are, and get the jobs that they can get. You oppose this and you will be fought from pillar to post over it. You are a pathetic little animal.

Pal came back thus;

They shouldn’t allow to be autistic because they are a embarrassment to society. To top it off, profound autistic people are a burden to society and should be forgotten forever because they bought shame to the family.

You IDIOT! That sort of talk is from the 1950’s at the latest! Typical right wing crap! And Melanie let him have it in a milder manner than I would have!

That proves that you are a supporter of human rights abuses. You need to be brought to heel and I know who can do it as he has the ability to do it. Phil Gluyas.

Mel tagged me when she named me, and yes I can bring him to heel. Especially after this diatribe in reply;

Human rights don’t exist on disabled people because they can’t make their own decisions. He can’t do it because his disability made him hopeless

Hopeless?? You bastard! You’re more hopeless than I am, and that has nothing to do with your Autism. It’s your attitude! Human rights do exist for us – from the United Nations! Indeed, as Carl rightly said;

Human rights exist for EVERYONE! No exceptions! Phil isn’t hopeless. He has achieved a lot in his life and a lot more than you ever will if you don’t stop letting others who hate autism dictate to you how you should be.

Melanie drove home the point;

Well said, Carl. Dang Pal, you need to stop and stop now – before Phil makes sure that you get the treatment you need and deserve. he can do it because as Carl said, Phil isn’t hopeless. Hopeless people don’t win in court, umpire hundreds of games of football, acts effectively in the political field and aren’t afraid to name and shame cruel parents who won’t vaccinate their children for all the wrong reasons.

I’ll now review the link. It was to a story from The Australian talking about a court decision that firmly ratified the minimum wage as a requirement, and as a consequence it was claimed that this threatened the very existence of sheltered workshops. The story was written in 2014 and as far as I know the workshops are continuing on their merry way.

Pal added this barbed rhetoric;

You disabled right [beep!]wits want to shut down sheltered workshop? Guess what, it’s never going to happen because they have nowhere else to go. Plus, wage increase would make them lose their pension and their jobs.

Melanie was first to jump in on the new status;

Yes they would – if discriminating employers will actually give them a go on their terms!

Pal’s reply?

Who told you to speak up for them? They wouldn’t be given a chance elsewhere because they have nowhere lest to go.

Carl saved me the trouble of firing back myself;

Yes they would. If employers would put people on an equal footing with profits and judge people on their positives and not their negatives. You don’t believe in a fair go do you?

And James added this reflection on the link as well as in reply to Pal;

The government has put a lot of money into wage subsidy schemes to employ disabled people, as stated in the story which is from 2014. There has not been one closure. You are the one who wants them closed so they can remain lowly and be forced to demand a cure for their malady instead of accepting it as a part of them. They deserve good jobs.

The other new status was a clear bait;

I am the troll. Feed me haters, feed the troll. Why you hating, that what motivates the troll.

He’s not a troll in the strictest sense as I reflected on the August edition of my podcast, because he truly believes this stuff he is saying. Sam baited him right back;

You’re the hater. We’re just making it obvious to the world at our expense, Dang Pal of the City of Greater Dandenong, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.

Melanie added;

We hate you because you are a potential killer and you need help.

Indeed. As I have said, Pal is on the same path as Oliver Canby, who is on the same path as Adam Lanza.

Pal could only play the ignorance card yet again;

They keep me trolling, they hating.

It was Barb’s turn to shut him down;

You don’t know what real hate is. You have been engaging in it and you won’t admit it. So you have been called out on it, and you think it’s hate. You are a hypocrite.

I’ll get around to that other entry I promised, believe me! And I will be making enquiries to try and find this idiot in real life. He’s a threat to the Autistic community and he needs to be found. I just have to trip the right wires as they say and when I do, Pal will be brought to heel as the threat that he is.

Well after developments while I was in Adelaide I lost no time setting up this new blog because it needed to be done. This is the first fresh entry for the new presence on my website, and it again focuses on Pal’s stupid DAN page.

Before I get to that though, I want to note the fact that my link to the original location of the previous entry caused Pal to delete the original comment about electroshock therapy in order to make sure not only his comments disappeared but my link did too! Too bad – they are quoted in the previous entry so that gets him nowhere! Also, there will be nothing new on the Mitchell Newsweek article as they have closed the comments.

Now first off – in the good news he has got rid of the Best link. That’s a start. But since I’ve been in Adelaide he’s posted the most ridiculous and offensive statements! This started on Friday last week when he posted this;

Hey losers. Please explain to me that why autism is not a disability? If it’s not a disability (according to neurodivesity), how come they claim a disability pension and some autistic people can’t even hold a minimum wage job?

Melanie was onto this before I saw it and gave this ripping reply;

Disability is a society label. In order to survive in a biased and hateful society that wants to punish people for not being like them, counter measures are needed to make up for the lack of employment. That’s all the pension is. The reality is that there is ability. You have ability – USE IT!! Stop crying about autism. Stop letting the bastards win. FIGHT BACK AND SHOW THEM YOU ARE HUMAN! Right now – you’re an animal bent on dragging all other autistics down to your level.

When all the balance is achieved, there will be no need for the pension for autism – because all autistics will have jobs on their merits, as it should be.

I couldn’t top that when I saw it so I didn’t bother to add my two cents – but Pal went even further into the gutter with this reply;

What about profound autistic people with intellectual disability, can they get a job? Neurodivesity extremists can’t even answer this question, ya dumb [honk!].

Sam Redfern answered this one;

Yes they can, and have.

That’s true, albeit menial jobs like car washing as an example. But Pal continued with his offensive BS;

People with profound autism can hold a job? No, they have a mental age as an infant and is a burden to others. Can you imagine that? They would scare away normal customers, if they work at a fast food joint and it’s too expensive to hire them. However, sheltered workshop is a suitable place for them to work with goodwill wage ($2 a week) and separated from normal people. Where would they go if they have no job? They would be in the street, state run institutions or the disabled home. No wonder you neurodivesity extremist are dumb as hell.

I would have given him both barrels for that, but Barb Vernon saved me the trouble;

You know nothing. There are MANY menial jobs away from customers that the profoundly autistic can do, and they pay a lot more than $2 a week as well. Stop lying. You are harming yourself and no one else by doing it.

Earlier, Pal gave this equally ridiculous response to Melanie;

Even if their given jobs, services and right amount of support. They would remain disabled because of their autism or any type of disability. Please explain that how is someone who severely afflicted with autism, with intellectual disability is going to survive without assistance or pension?

According to DSM 5, autism is a developmental disability that impair their ability to socialize, have abnormal communication and have unusual restricted and repetitive behavior. People who are suffering from profound autism have intellectually disability, epilepsy, gastro problems and have sensory overload. While others who are mildly affected have high iq and go to college. Btw, I got my sources from autism speaks, the best autism service available. Please stop saying that autism is not a disability because you copy Phil Glueyas and the neurodivesity extremist.

Christine McKewen came back with fire and brimstone;

Because it’s true;
Autism is not a disability
Autism is not a disability
Autism is not a disability
Autism is not a disability
Autism is not a disability

UNLESS YOU LET IT BE ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stop making excuses, coward. You WANT to be on a pension for life! Autism Speaks is the WORST service in the world! Talk to Amaze – you’re in Victoria right? You got to college, right? You can get a job – just stop making excuses and demand help to overcome those restrictions! You CAN do it!

Christine didn’t address all of what Pal said, but here’s my reply here.

Given jobs, services and the right amount of support – there is no problem! Disability disappears because they are leading a normal life! A job means no pension, idiot! Pal also tried to bail to the literal interpretation of the DSM-5 as though it was the book end on the entire issue. It’s only the book end on a diagnosis! Just because a person has socialisation issues, communication difficulties and restricted or repetitive behaviour patterns doesn’t mean they can’t do anything with their lives!! The profoundly Autistic CAN recover from epilepsy and gastro problems, and in the process relieve sensory overload – and even the intellectually challenged can do something with their lives!

That expands on what Christine said in a nutshell and she was right about Autism Speaks. She was also right to reference Amaze. But Pal hit the stupid button with this reply;

Now [beep!] off, you troll. Show me your real account? Please, don’t be a sad [honk!].

Way to avoid the point, and Sam got him back a beauty;

Show yours first, coward.

Pal responded wanting to know if Sam had forgotten to take his medication, so which Sam shot back wondering if Pal had forgotten his.

Pal also gave this ridiculous comment in more general reply to Christine;

Autism speaks is the best autism organization in the world and bought hope to families in need. They promise to find a cause, cure and prevention. Stop claiming autism and people with other disabilities are not disabled because you’re butthurt that disabled people are abnormal. Phil claimed that autism defines the person, something is wrong with him? That like saying cancer or flesh eating disease define the person, when it doesn’t. You guys need to stick your noses where it doesn’t belong.

Mel is not even a scientist, she a fraud who forged her university degree.

That’s not a new one against Melanie. She knows what she’s done and what she has. Anti vaxxers have attacked her in the past along those lines. She’s used to it. Autism does define a person as Pal has rightly said I have noted, and for one very simple reason. if you don’t adjust to it and own it, it will own you and you’ll go mad – like Adam Lanza did. Sam though was great with this reply;

She most certainly is a scientist and a very good one as well. Autism is not a disease so stop making comparisons to cancer. You are butthurt because you are being told the truth, and like A Few Good Men you can’t handle it. Autism Speaks didn’t help families until they were forced to because they had money, and even then they don’t provide the help they really need. You are the one sticking your nose into something that you don’t belong in, because you don’t understand and you don’t want to understand – because all you want is to be recognised as a lowly little kid with a loud voice. It doesn’t work like that and it never will.

Pal reply to that was pathetic;

If autism not a disease. Autism might of been a genetic defect or broken brain like fragile x because of the similar symptoms that they share. Those who are mildly afflicted are not likely to suffer from genetic defect.

Christine corrected the obvious;

There is no such thing as a genetic defect in autism. It’s a genetic difference.

And of course Pal played the ignorance card;

Shoe me scientific proof, dumb [honk!]?

That was right out of the book of Yuval Levental and Melanie countered brilliantly;

You show us that it’s a defect – scientifically.

That shut him up there. But on the back of his earlier reply to Sam, Pal also said this;

This graph show autism is on the rise. By 2020, it projected to be 1 in 10. Scary, huh?

The graph was from Autism Speaks and was done in a misleading manner to make their usual message about fearing Autism as obvious as they can. Ginger Taylor had a graph that was actually better than that one showing no uniform rise at all (as it should because there were jumps as we all know). Christine was first to respond to this;

BS. It will level out and may even drop when the DSM-5 takes hold. Autism Speaks is lying and using the wrong sort of graph to scare like those animals usually do.

Pal came back with this load of rubbish;

Neurodivesity extremists are lying and claiming that autism not a disability because they don’t want to get upset that they are abnormal themselves. Who knows, neurodivesity extremist would shoot people for not accommodating their needs, like Adam Lanza, Martin Bryant and the Seuong-Hui Cho. Do you know what they have in common? They had autism.

That’s another one that would have had me all over him but Melanie came back with this;

Bryant and Cho did not have autism. Lanza did what he did because he rejected his diagnosis outright and was never himself.

Pal lied in his reply;

Bryant did had autism, then later changed to Asperger’s syndrome.

Carl Davis came in with this accurate correction.

He never had either. Stop lying. His IQ was tested at 66, and yet he could handle a gun.

Pal played the ignorance card yet again;

Martin Bryant had autism, along with intellectual disability.

Sam shut him down thus;

Martin Bryant did not and does not have autism. His gun handling ability was too good for such a diagnosis.

Continuing the previous theme with graphs, Pal also put up a photo and added this to it;

Neurodivesity extremists deny that autistic child cost $225 billion dollars and its projected to cost $300 billion by 2030.

The photo contradicted that, claiming that the cost in the US was $137 billion (in Australia I know it’s an average of $5.8 billion – the difference can be put down to population). It also claimed $3 million in a lifetime of one Autistic – which equates to $60,000 a year for 50 years. That would only apply if treatment failed. Nevertheless the claim that those of us who support neurodiversity deny this is rubbish. In fact I expect that amount to be spent. Christine said this;

So? That’s what happens when you don’t treat it with respect from the start! Guess where the majority of the cost will be? In adults, because they weren’t looked after as kids! Look after the kids properly and the cost will drop.

Pal’s reply was stupid and shows that he is ignorant of parental neglect;

Stop blaming the parents when they did a good job looking after the mentally disabled kid.

Christine fired back;

If the condition was not treated with respect, the parents did not do a good job.

Pal didn’t like that and fired up;

WTF are you talking about retard? Bad parenting don’t cause the autistic child to suffer, autism does. The only way to fix that, is extensive therapy session or Aba therapy to reduce to suffering.

Christine came back in kind;

Bad parenting DOES cause suffering, you ignorant little savage! R-E-S-P-E-C-T!!!!

And Pal’s reply totally lacked it!!

Respect? I never heard of that Pokemon.

That was uncalled for, and so was this follow up;

Autism is the culprit of the problem. It can be solved with treatment to relieve the suffering. Bad parenting don’t cause autism to worsen, it’s the disabled child fault. He needs to harden the fuck up and realize this world is cruel and tough.

That caused Melanie to nearly blow a fuse;

You harden up and realise that people have the right to fight for who they are. You are denying that right, and that makes you a human rights abuse supporter. You are abusing yourself and don’t even know it.

Well said, Mel! And Pal played the ignorance card again;

I’m never abuse myself, you deluded [honk!]? Autism doesn’t define the person, like intellectual disability or Down syndrome. Please stop copying phils deluded ideology.

Oh yes it does! Any genetic difference does that! And Carl shut him down with this;

Stop copying Autism Speaks’ deluded and hateful ideology. You are abusing yourself because you’re allowing yourself to be held down.

To the original point, Barb had this to say;

Costs will go up for everything, you know. It’s called the increased cost of living. It affects everyone.

And James Marsh added this;

Employers refuse to employ them. It’s called discrimination. They can work. They just aren’t allowed because people are afraid of them. They are afraid of you, and you aren’t helping yourself by fanning that fear instead of countering it.

Pal had an excuse for that one;

If that the case, they could work in the sheltered workshop and they will earn the “goodwill wage”. They shouldn’t complain about “discrimination”, they should harden the [beep!] up and get another job.

Christine had the perfect rejoinder for this;

You should take your own advice, softie.

There was more – as talk switched to sheltered workshops, but that’s for the next entry on this new blog.